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Marketing IS in the Middle: John Mecke

The next person who was kind enough to participate in the Middle series was John Mecke.  John is a revenue optimizer and true operator.  John has experience in all kinds of organizations – small, large, start-ups and mature organization, so his world view is balanced I suspect by the diversity of organization, products and strategies he has pursued/developed over time.  This interview not only turned out to answer the questions, but perhaps has some good use cases which I can steal and use for myself, hopefully you can to.

What marketing roles have you had and in what markets?

I’ve had just about every role from a marketing perspective – Business Development, Corporate development, Product Management.  I was even lucky enough to be a CMO, which is one of the toughest jobs to ever have in marketing!  I’ve not only been a marketer, I’ve done a good deal of work in other functional areas – support, professional services and operations which provides a good lens to view the market from.

From a market perspective, I’ve participated in teams delivering enterprise application development platforms, e-learning and human capital, non-profits and B2B infrastructure solutions.

When you look at your career in marketing, what discipline/component have you found most interesting/challenging?

Demand Generation.  In my career I have worked primarily with products and services that are in either the early majority, late majority, or laggard parts of the technology adoption life cycle.  When solutions reach this stage of their natural evolution, customers and prospects are not banging down the door to buy your products.  Prospects typically have multiple vendors they could purchase their solution from.  The key challenge in this type of environment for Marketing is how to enable the organization to find, develop, and close high value opportunities.  Most battles that occur in later stage technology companies occur between the Marketing and Sales teams.  Sales feels that marketing never delivers enough quality leads and Marketing feels that the Sales team is sitting by their PCs and fax machines waiting for the orders to fly in on their own.

What do you feel the most important component of a successful marketing gig? (Product, Brand, Positioning)

Positioning.  For middle to late stage technology companies, honest self assessment of the firm’s realistic position in the competitive landscape is critical.  The reality is that in established markets there is a pecking order for the vendors in the market.  There are always the leaders (as measured by revenues and customers), the middle tier players, and the niche players – think of Geoffrey Moore’s Gorillas, Chimps, & Monkeys.  In middle to late stage markets the players rarely change where they fit into the pecking order via organic growth.  Typically changes occur because of mis-execution by management teams (think restructurings, investments in products/services that never had a chance of succeeding, layoffs, or liquidation) or by mergers and acquisitions.  Go to any technology company’s website and you will find the term in their ‘About Us’ section “We are a leading provider of . . . . “  In many cases the management team and especially marketing really believe that they are the leading provider — if the market would just really understand how their solution was ‘superior.’

If you have the courage to really understand where you fit into the market, there are dozens of strategies and tactics that can be employed from a product, brand, and positioning perspective to steal existing business from both competitors that are larger as well as smaller than your firm is.


Since you selected Positioning, how have you seen that contribute to revenue?

I can think of several situations where realistic positioning has materially contributed to revenue growth, but I’ll talk about two specific examples.

When I was in the enterprise application development tools business in the 1990’s we sold these very expensive Computer Aided Software Engineering products.  These were tools used by application developers in Global 2000 enterprises to model business applications and the generate the actual application code for COBOL, C, IMS, DB2, Oracle, Sybase, CICS, IMS, MQ Series, Tuxedo, & BEA environments.  My company, Sterling Software, was the largest player in the market primarily as a result of five roll up acquisitions.  Once we were established as the leader we still have fend off the chimps and monkeys who were riding the e-business market wave in the late 1990s.

We realized that only 15% of the Global 2000 would ever respond to our core value proposition.  The most receptive people believed in the theory of ‘model-based application development.’  This theory was somewhat of a cult – the adherents truly believed that by modeling their business requirements and systems designs using rigorous graphically based meta models that they would catch errors much sooner in the application development process and as a result deliver higher quality applications faster and cheaper in comparison to traditional application development approaches.  All cults have leaders.  Our market was strongly influenced by technologists like Ed Yourdon – the father of structured analysis and design, Peter Coad, James Martin, and Grady Booch.  We created a concept called Component Based Development (aka CBD).

We decided to leverage these trends and create a concept called a concept called Component Based Development (aka CBD).  We then promoted one of our internal senior architects as the definitive expert on Component Based Development.  Dr. Allen Brown became a prolific writer published by Prentice Hall (these were pre-blog days).  You can check out Alan’s publications at http://tinyurl.com/5kgvpe .  We also formed a USA-based and International CBD Customer Advisory board that held meetings twice a year in very nice locations.  Our ‘cult’ of Component Based Development enabled us to market and sell effectively to the 15% of the Global 2000 that were receptive to our core value proposition.  It also helped us to maintain extremely high maintenance retention rates on our software maintenance business as well.

Another great example of how realistic positioning contributed to revenue involves the concept of Competitive Steal Aways.   How can you create enough hard dollar savings that would encourage users of a service or product to move to another service or product.  The concept of competitive steal aways typically are a late stage laggard market play.  The biggest challenge is that you can’t only provide price reduction, but you need to provide more value over the current provider.  That requires effective positioning, promotion and placement to be successful.

What experiences brought you to this conclusion?

I have had the opportunity to work in startups, companies that were ‘crossing the chasm’, as well as companies that truly were providers of legacy solutions to existing markets.  Sitting around the executive table the common lament has always been “how can we grow revenue in a tough market environment.”  I’ve seen companies deny the reality of their true competitive and market position – most of those companies eventually failed or were acquired at what could only be considered to be a discounted valuation.  I have also worked in companies that had the courage to accept the reality of their situation and creatively find ways to execute against their competitors.

If you could design the perfect corporate environment for a marketer to be successful what would that be?

Ideally I would love to be in an environment that comes up with the next Google or iPhone.  Working for a company that creates and then sells the hottest product or service is a dream almost everybody in the technology world wants.  Since I have as much of a chance of winning the Mega-Millions Lotto as I do of stumbling into that type of situation the perfect corporate environment for a marketer like me would be an executive team that has a firm grasp on the reality of their competitive landscape and the courage to use highly creative approaches for demand generation.

How far is this from reality?

Not far at all.  The number of technology companies that truly dominate their markets is few. The number of technology companies that wish they could dominate their markets is measured in the thousands.  The concepts I have laid out here are applicable to all of them.

Marketing IS in the Middle: Chris Brogan

Marketers are EVERYWHERE and not all are formally trained, I for one am an accidental marketer so I thought it was important to reach out to other folks who aren’t formally trained.  So as I continue to look at marketing and my network, I thought it was important to engage not just traditional markets, but also folks that help drive the overall ecosystem.  Chris Brogan is just one of those folks.  I actually didn’t follow Chris at all until he responded to a corporate blog I participate on and piqued my interest.   I’ve had the opportunity to meet, read and appreciate Chris’ take on social media and the larger marketing opportunity with social media.    Make no bones about it – Chris is a marketer and his new venture as president of New Marketing Labs is proof.  Chris was cool enough to participation in the marketing is in the middle conversation and below is his view:

What marketing roles have you had and in what markets?

None. I was a technologist for the last 18 years, but got into marketing by way of joining an events marketing company (Pulvermedia), and just haven’t left the circus since. Over the last 10 years, I’ve been blogging and using social media for improved business communications. Turns out that *became* marketing when I wasn’t looking.

When you look at your career in marketing, what discipline/component have you found most interesting/challenging?

Interesting: listening. I think that listening and customer service are the new marketing. Screw your stupid tag lines and contests. If I listen to prospective customers’ needs, and I can improve the way a customer works with my company, then I’m doing what marketing really wants to do: acquire new customers and keep the existing ones happy. Have fun with your contests.

What do you feel the most important component of a successful marketing gig?  (Product, Brand, Positioning)

Moving a behavioral needle. Did I get something to change and stay changed from when I started until when I left.

Since you selected something I NEVER would have thought of how has that contributed to revenue?

Building loyal passionate communities is a great way to contribute to revenue. It’s lovely to ask people who are passionate about how you make them feel for money. They like giving. Revenue is a return on influence.

What experiences brought you to this conclusion?

I’ve run some very successful conferences, and I’ve also run some online marketing experiences for people. In both cases, my best proof is revenue. I hate the ROI question, because there’s no easy calculator that shows you what I’m going to deliver. So instead, I show revenue bumps as fast as I can. Seems like a fair trade.

If you could design the perfect corporate environment for a marketer to be successful what would that be?

Small, nimble, and focused on action, not beauty.

How far is this from reality?

Not far in my world. I’m working with some great companies, big ones, who love the idea that it’s as simple as listening, building relationships, and serving those relationships. I love developing quality content marketing for them, like group blogs or email marketing that delivers, instead of the same tired old marketing messages. I’m loving my ride, and looking forward to what comes next!

Who are these people and why are they following me?

So I recently hit some milestones online which I would have never thought were that interesting, until it happened. Just passed 5000 downloads of the eBook, hit 1000 followers on Twitter and just learned Spatially Relevant was on Alltop – all in the last 10 days or so. To that end, I thought I would take the time and figure out just who is in my network and understand the types of folks/classes in my network.

Pure curiosity killed the cat on this one, once I started I had to keep going since there were so many interesting posts, people and blogs which I haven’t read. I was able to find some interesting things from a data perspective, the most interesting is I probably don’t have 1000 followers, something more like 750 if you weed out some of the marketers, suspended accounts and alike. Plus this seemed at the start to be great exercise to get to know folks just a little better and I did. It was definitely enjoyable to find out more about folks and read the great content I was able to find in the network.

So What Does the Network Look Like?

So I had to figure out a way to classify folks, so I used the data on the profile. Specifically the link as the user provided on their profile as the core classification attribute. Ultimately, not all users have updated or complete profiles, but it’s the best data I have across the entire network.

Not all members of my network are linking to blogs, some have no links, others linked in, some the site of their favorite band and some for a product they are apparently selling/marketing. So links look like a good bellweather, at least in my book.

Later in the process, I started looking at follower and following ratios, but only for two classes. So I started the analysis last night and it was horribly manual. The study started when my number of followers was 1003.

The Profile Classifications

Since the only real information I could use was profile information, I was able to build 5 classes based on links – No Link, Suspended, Selling/Marketing, Blogger/Social Media and Other.

No Link – These network members have no link on their profiles.

Selling/Marketing – These users have URL’s that link to corporate websites, MLM sites, Get Rich Now and other clearly marketing or sales related content. Some users in this group may think they are bloggers, but when content hasn’t been updated regularly, they have more google ads than articles per square inch and other affiliate programs they were put in this category.

Bloggers/Social Media – This user class are for folks that linked to their own blogs, corporate blogs or their blog was 1 click away. Now there are some salesy things in this class, but if you blog everyday or reasonably frequently, you get this classification.

Other – These users link to where they worked, may have been a brand online, used facebook, resume, family website, friendfeed, myspace, YouTube or another social media profile. If a user had a link, but the site was down or the URL mistyped this class was used <10.

Suspended – You know what this means.

The Network Overview

The Numbers

Deviation from Expected Total is 28 so out of the gate I am 2.8% off of reality

Bloggers vs. Marketers

During the process I noticed an interesting thing – over time the mix of the network changed. I determined time by the pagination process, the further down in page count the older. So I decided to look the adds by the first 50% of my network or the first 487 in the sample. The first 487 essentially are the “oldest”, so when I starting on Twitter. The second 50% are the most recent 488 in my sample or those closest to page one in the “next” process.

The Table

Following vs. Followers

About a third of the way in I started to notice that Selling and Marketing folks followed a BUNCH more users than followed them. For bloggers, I noticed they were likely following less than were following them. This is a partial sample, but the averages below should be indicative for what is fairly intuitive.

  • Selling/Marketers follow 2.83 for Every 1 follower (N=74)
  • Bloggers follow 1.18 for Every 1 Follower (N=197)

Observations – NOT CONCLUSIONS

  • Skewed Blogger ratio in the first half likely driven by:
  • Early Adopters of Twitter being Bloggers/Social Media types
  • My personal choice to follow bloggers
  • Growing Use of No Link or Facebook/Others indicates less tech savvy users adopting
  • I think there was a “scripted” add process in place in the 2nd 50% to skew the Suspends, multiple users in a row were “Suspended” with odd naming conventions
  • There is a lot of people using the same stock themes, although most change from the WordPress default or blogspot default
  • There were a good deal more blogspot accounts than I would have thought
  • Typepad appears to be real minority in my network – hunch, no math on this.
  • Bloggers from outside North America have a skewed Following to Followers ratio compared to NA bloggers
  • People from the midwest seem to use MySpace more as their link, if in the other class
  • I believe I have verified 32 BOTs or bot like accounts
  • Why would you EVER link your resume??!?!?!?

Thanks to my Network

So since I’ve ultimately used your data to help move this forward and provided a label for ya, might as well provide a link. I’ve attempted to link as many bloggers as I could, in the end I started random cutting-n-pasting after like 16 hours of effort on this to have a representative sample of the whole network. So your blog may have been left off for that reason, profanity or another judgment call I made.

  1. The BusyBrain
  2. The Press Release Site
  3. Launch Clinic – Great product launch blog
  4. Team Danielle Miller
  5. WAHM Talk Radio – Author is from portland, MI. which is where I took a picture for a post I did on advertising, billboards and population
  6. Michael Patrick Leahy
  7. Dave Ferguson
  8. The Social Customer
  9. Off the Shelf – Wayne Hasting
  10. A Road ReTraveled – A Frost poem is always good
  11. mattb4rd.com
  12. Mophopro
  13. The Harte of Marketing
  14. Productivity in Context
  15. Chuck Westbrook – Multiple blogs is a challenge Chuck
  16. Social Media 404
  17. Fresh Focus
  18. Stephen Fry
  19. Rhett Smith – Co-working is definitely an interesting way to go.
  20. Propagandery
  21. Ghennipher -Social Media Spin
  22. The Social Reformer
  23. The Life and Times
  24. Craig Berntson: DevBlog
  25. U Have a Voice – Jason Tryfon
  26. Genderfork
  27. Great Green Fees Blog
  28. Muffin Bottoms – I have a Panic visor I just can’t get enough of, can’t imagine owning a White House logo hat.
  29. One Day for Human Rights
  30. Markus Egger – Sometimes a good hockey game is about as good as it gets
  31. Sharpie Blog – You NEVER can have too many Sharpies
  32. The Scratching Post
  33. Broken Doll
  34. Michael Fauscette
  35. Mike Volpe
  36. I never grew up
  37. RealPolitix
  38. Tech PR Gems
  39. Stephanie Agresta – Austin is always a good deal of fun.
  40. Idea to Ideas
  41. Jennifer Eastman
  42. John Wyatt Edgar
  43. Cognizant Frisk
  44. Mike Trap
  45. iEllie
  46. Rochelle Veturis
  47. Jason Alexander
  48. Gray Ware – The product is key and if it can make the customers feel like they are doing good – bonus
  49. Tom O’Keefe
  50. Brookes Bayne
  51. Rick Weiss – Try Guitar Hero
  52. 113
  53. “Magnet Marketing” – MLM/genius computer boy – funny.
  54. The only certainty is bad grammar – I look forward to your edits.
  55. Matthew Good
  56. I want, I got
  57. Organic Health and Beauty
  58. DCR Blogs
  59. Web Ink Now
  60. Megan West‘s Tumblr Subtextual
  61. Tina Hassannia
  62. Designer Daily
  63. Denim Therapy
  64. Silky’s Sweet Spot
  65. The Weekly Medium
  66. Steve Terlizzi
  67. Just Creative Design
  68. Kevin Law
  69. Michelle Wolverton/Chel Pixie
  70. Derek Neighbors
  71. Timeless Lessons
  72. Legal Marketing Canada
  73. Blond Over the Pond – I always try and travel on the holiday, if reasonable.
  74. From Dates to Diapers
  75. Mint Gallery
  76. Lynne Lessard – I think she really wants to be the PM of Canada
  77. Lyndsay Cabildo
  78. Chick Shopper Chick
  79. Brett
  80. Joe Castagna
  81. ICBC Law
  82. Ryan Scott Miller
  83. Mark Dykeman
  84. Trusted Ones
  85. Crafty Lil Momma
  86. Chucky Pita – Uh the earth IS getting warmer
  87. Mommy Niri
  88. Talking Shopping
  89. Launch PR
  90. Scott Johns
  91. Mara triangle
  92. Send Paper Cards Blog
  93. There is a Blog in My Soup
  94. Europe String – In for Hostel
  95. Movie Porch
  96. Think Train
  97. Because I feel like writing
  98. Northern Michigan Weather
  99. Ministry and Meteorology
  100. Kyle Lacy – You two core premises on why use an auto-responses are not consistent with my use case. I also am not sure I see Twitter as a permission based marketing tool
  101. Coaching From Spirit Challenge
  102. Zero Creative
  103. What Mati is up to
  104. Daily Paul
  105. She Just Walks Around with It
  106. Louis Gray
  107. Zoomdoggle
  108. Stark
  109. Productive Flourishing
  110. By Zarah
  111. There Goes Dave
  112. Candace Clayton
  113. Maumi
  114. Learn to Duck
  115. The Full Pint – Beer Blog
  116. Social Media Explorer
  117. Social Fishing
  118. Almost Fearless
  119. Sarah Scmelling – This I counted as a blog since it is on wordpress, has links and has access to her twitter stream.
  120. Walt Ribeiro – Can you teach me guitar online?
  121. Raj’s Random Randomness
  122. Cathy Nagle
  123. Monday Night Brewery
  124. I got My Start
  125. Karen Classic – It is What it Is
  126. Staying ALive
  127. Claudia Broome
  128. Service the Action form of Love
  129. I Choose Change
  130. Cinci Groove
  131. Learning Rails
  132. Marvel Body
  133. Corporate Dollar
  134. Lead Your Lives
  135. Fantastic Technology
  136. Tweet PR
  137. Go Swoop
  138. Morrow Bones – Indeed how is twitter going to help your company?
  139. Confident 1
  140. Eric Karofsky
  141. Social Organization
  142. Jamie Scheu
  143. Books on the Night Stand
  144. Kevin Micalizzi
  145. Google Apps Spreadsheet of Mad Men followers -Did you ever think you had dupes following you? You do, check the spreadsheet.
  146. Ming’s Secret
  147. Brand Tats
  148. Bunny Blog
  149. Phila Flava
  150. Shannon Swenson
  151. Conversational Media
  152. Caitlin G. Rosberg
  153. M Zampino
  154. Evolving Web
  155. Uptown UnCorked – This could be part of your twitter meme, just no #wishlist – just a list
  156. Mud Blood Beer
  157. Eve-101
  158. Chris Hadley
  159. Viva Visibility
  160. Confessions of a Former Fatty
  161. Get more Faster
  162. Dave Saunders
  163. Ray Wang
  164. Form Rejection Letter Theatre
  165. Ted.me
  166. Richard @ Dell
  167. Wine diver girl
  168. Stasia and Bob
  169. Quirky Blogger
  170. Over the river
  171. Keith goodrum – I bet there are a bunch of captain morgan jokes here.
  172. Sandra Foyt
  173. Kent Nichols
  174. Colleen Coplick
  175. New Comm Biz
  176. Qtip
  177. Ivan Andersson
  178. This is Herd
  179. Jason Keath
  180. The Cricket League
  181. Jillette
  182. Emila
  183. Cool Mom Guide – Everyone needs a cool mom, plus a guide must be handy
  184. Gray Hat Zone
  185. Through a Photographers Eye
  186. Gail Goodwin
  187. College Football Place
  188. Blonde Fabulocity
  189. James Hervy
  190. The Architek
  191. Web Market Journal
  192. Tech Ministri
  193. The Poopie Patrol
  194. Bud Designs
  195. Jessica Knows
  196. Headphonaught
  197. Martin – Sorry about your loss
  198. Notes from the Sleep Deprived
  199. Mayhem Studios
  200. Darn Lucky
  201. Web Wide Wizards
  202. Hello Leticia
  203. i1326
  204. Daryl Lorette
  205. Shileen Nixon
  206. Good Vibe
  207. Stacey Lang
  208. Village Luigi
  209. Steve Smyth
  210. Varibatim -Variable Quotes?
  211. The Sales Blog
  212. BawstonBlog
  213. UGA Connect
  214. Wright Place TV
  215. Ex Hostage
  216. Mamma’s Tantrum
  217. Copywrite Ink
  218. Real Home Sense
  219. Grow Young NOt Old
  220. Ultimate Leverage Success Blog
  221. Dan the Man
  222. Doing Media
  223. Stilgherrian
  224. The thinking stick
  225. Hank edson
  226. Vogue Sugar
  227. Rushay
  228. John Papa
  229. Sarah Rogers
  230. Treo Bunny
  231. Enjoy Parenting
  232. Jay Arias
  233. Gina Chen
  234. Smile Ovni
  235. My Dandelion Patch
  236. Kevin Grandia
  237. More hip than Hippie
  238. Gaming Angels
  239. Life in the Labyrinth
  240. Matt culbreth
  241. Karen McMillan
  242. Girl_G_Amy – I need to try and figure out all the bands I saw, last time I tried I figured about 250 bands and about 900 shows. It includes random college and bar bands though
  243. Social Media Super Affiliate
  244. Green Living Ideas
  245. Jesse Page
  246. The Good Human
  247. Southboard
  248. Barefeet Studios
  249. NEENZ
  250. The Aptitude Doc
  251. Blaire Warren
  252. Grateful Grebe
  253. Funkadelic Playground
  254. Immediate Influence
  255. Connie Crosby
  256. Dog Ear Nation
  257. Magic Woodworks
  258. Beau Frusetta
  259. Hippie Spelunker
  260. Bridget Z
  261. Her Media
  262. Rex White
  263. Dave Murr
  264. Cheryl Smith
  265. Lisa Stone
  266. Neal Jansons
  267. 18 and Life
  268. Five Husbands
  269. Off on a Tangent
  270. Developers Advocate
  271. dave riley
  272. Jon K
  273. DJ Flush
  274. Diana Kimball
  275. Coming to a Nursery Near You
  276. Final Draft design
  277. Fruit Bytes
  278. PRP2
  279. Apropos of Nothing
  280. Ken casting
  281. Lala FuFu
  282. Mouthy Girl
  283. A girl’s gotta spa
  284. Mark David Gerson
  285. NMP Network
  286. A Better Life
  287. Adam Cohen
  288. Nichole Adams
  289. SEO Champion
  290. Marz8
  291. Conversations Matter
  292. Orange Jack
  293. Frank gorton
  294. Chartruese
  295. Mike Panic
  296. Brand Flakes for Breakfast
  297. Marketing Warrioress
  298. Des Walsh
  299. Charles Heflin
  300. Small Biz Survival
  301. The Consumerist
  302. Kevin.com.ua
  303. Confessions of a Southern Boy in Yankee Land
  304. Chriss Mari
  305. Rob Blatt
  306. Charles French
  307. Sioksiok
  308. Len edgerly
  309. Scott Stead
  310. Galucci
  311. Mark Heyert
  312. Chris Heuer
  313. Inside Charm City
  314. Have Mac wiil Blog
  315. alex de carvalho
  316. Nick Starr
  317. Tips from the Top Floor
  318. Weird Shi$%
  319. Social Media Group
  320. Media Tile
  321. Deaf Mom World
  322. Jeff Madison
  323. Too Fabulous for Words
  324. Michael Markman
  325. MikeyPod
  326. Edge Hopper
  327. You look nice today
  328. Adam Purcell
  329. Lagesse
  330. Rick Mahn
  331. East Coast Blogging
  332. Todd Jordan
  333. Ignite Social Media
  334. Ill Doctrine
  335. vicki Forman
  336. Igor the Troll
  337. Marketing Profs
  338. Divine Purpose Unleashed
  339. eMom
  340. Liz Strauss
  341. David Bullock
  342. Bigg Success
  343. Success Creeations
  344. Derek Semmler
  345. Terry Starbucker
  346. Business on the Mound
  347. Geek Mommy
  348. CoachDeb
  349. DOug Haslam
  350. Very Spatial
  351. Christina Warren
  352. Chris Garrett
  353. Mukund @ BuzzGain
  354. Erin Kotecki Vest
  355. Chris Brogan
  356. Jeremiah Owyang
  357. Scoble

METHODOLOGY

Horribly Manual with 2 kids and 2 Dogs to take care of during the exercise, but this piece was predicated on counting by class via the “Next Page” function of Twitter under Followers. Once on a profile, I clicked the link if available, reviewed the content and classified.

4 Tabulations of the manual document used (See Below)

  • 2 counts matched and 2 didn’t.
  • 3 of the counts were done by myself
  • 1 by Em.
  • MODEL REMEDY – Split the difference of Deltas via average by class-
  • Variance by classes between 1-4
  • Total Variance
  • 6-8 or .0082%.

Rounding and averaging is your friend…

photo.jpg by you.

Pagination changes whilst I slept, ate or made sure my kids didn’t injure themselves could represent errors in count by 3 or 4 in overall sample. Meaning that during the collection process new followers were added at least 1 left (I think), but close enough for govt work or .0041% on the outside. The overall change in the network during the data collection process was 33 folks or 3.34%, this would only impact the 50%/time line buckets I suspect.

Net-Net max variance expected to be 3.61% is baseline network definition or 36 units, so yes I missed something somewhere with my sophistical collection process.

This clearly isn’t scientific, but it was fun and should be fairly representative of something. Thanks for reading and pass it along, if it is of any use.

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Peace, Love, Justice and Activism: An Interview

I had an opportunity to recently connect with one of the most cool folks in my life, Chris Matthias.  Chris is one of those folks who still battles windmills, instills confidence in whomever he meets and ultimately he is out there trying to make a difference.  After hanging out and again seeing his passion to make the world a better place, I thought it was important to share with y’all what he does and hopefully provide you access to a new channel for making a difference you might not have been aware of.

Chris was kind enough to spend the time to work with me and get an interview in place so you can hear in his own voice why it is important to contribute and generally do good things when and where you can.

Q: What is the organization you work for?

I work for the Adrian Dominican Sisters, a congregation of Roman Catholic Sisters who abide in my home town of Adrian, Michigan.

Q: What are the key themes y’all are working for?

Key themes? The office that I work for is called Global Mission, Justice and Peace. Everything that we do is rooted in the vision of the Adrian Dominican Sisters, which is a crossroads of Catholic Social Teaching, the Dominican Charism, and the issues that the sisters are most actively engaged in. We have what we call corporate stances. These are positions that we have taken on certain issues, which become a mandate for my day to day work. Things like the Death Penalty, Nuclear Weapons, and the War in Iraq. We’re against all three by the way.

Q: Peace and Justice, really – how does one get a career in that?

I’ve had a long relationship with the Adrian Dominicans. I attended one of their sponsored institutions for college,  Siena Heights University. As a student, I took a great interest in any action that was happening in the peace and justice arena. In my senior year, I did an internship in the office in which I now work and the sisters and I developed a great rapport.

After that I moved to Boston, once I graduated and continued to work for organizations in the non-profit sector, or human services.  I returned home for a short time, and just before I was going to leave again their was a want add for the office where I’d interned!   Needless to say, I didn’t get on the train.

Q: Where has peace and justice taken you?

Hmmm. Well, I suppose there are several ways to answer that one. First the concrete….

My work in peace and justice has taken me to a lot of demonstrations. Of course in Adrian, but also to demonstrations in Washington DC as well as Fort Benning Georgia to work on closing the School of the Americas/WHINSEC. But it isn’t all demonstrating. There is a lot of coalition building and colaborating with different groups. For example this summer I went to Philidelphia for the Convention for the Common Good, where progressive Catholics gathered to create discuss which issues they were most dedicated to raising during and beyond the election season.

I’ve also gone and did some modest travel – I went to the UN in New York to learn about what the Dominican Family does as an NGO which was a great opportunity.  I also did some international work in Jamaica and the Dominican Republic.

In the more abstract, my work in peace and justice has taken me deeper into community with the people in my life, both familiar and unfamiliar. I know that sounds a little strange, but this is what I mean: when one’s work is focusing on injustice and inequity, we are forced to take a pretty serious dose of self examination, to make sure that we are challenging ourselves to be more just and more equitable in how we interact with our families, significant others, neighbors, our food supply, the people who produce the goods that we buy, how we spend money, what we consume, what we speak.

Q: Dude, are you a trustafarian or something?  How can you make it all work?

Far from it.  That would certainly make things much easier. The way that I approach it is to live within my means. Which I get right about 85 percent of the time.  I think that there is a big trade off when it comes to money.  Some of my friends make a lot more money than I do, but what they do to get it is nothing that they believe in.   But they get a sizable paycheck and that’s the reward. They eat at nicer restaurants than I do, they wear more expensive shoes, and can take more elaborate vacations.

Don’t get me wrong, I envy that sometimes. But most of the time it’s very easy to just be happy. The poor have their own wealth–each other.  When I lay down at night I fall right to sleep. Living in right relationships = a good life.

Q: How can folks help?

Every issue is a justice issue, and no one can handle them all. One of the things that is continuously referenced in my work circles is an interconnectedness of the issues. Human Trafficking might seem worlds away from making a choice not to but a Hummer (If that’s an option for you) but they both have to do with exercising privilege at the expense of others. So I say that the first step is start where you are.

What are problems facing your community? Go to a meeting, set up an action. You don’t have to have a Live Earth concert to do some good…Do a park clean up. Buy your food at the farmers’ market, turn off the TV and go outside. Play card games instead of video games. The way I see things, peace and justice are about healthy connecting. Injustice is a result of isolation, and selfishness. By starting small, there is a much better chance that you can stick to it, and then get into the bigger issues.


Q: I hear all that, but if there was just 1 thing everyone should do if they can’t actively travel or don’t have the cash to donate, what would that be?

Compost. I know that doesn’t seem like it’s going to save the world from AIDS, nuclear war, or global warming, however, it does mean that we actively recognize that this is a closed system we’re living in here. Recognize your part in it, and do well by it.  Life will sprout up from it.

Q:How can they follow up with you and your organization?

Visit our website @ www.adriandominicans.org or check out my blog, The Happy Activist. I don’t have that many readers right now, so if I get a few, maybe I’ll be held more accountable to write more.

I clearly couldn’t have put it as well as he did, thanks for doing this Chris! I’m definitely thankful for the effort he puts in day in and day out, so give him a read or check out what local organizations you may be able to participate in.